Ingredients to meal sizes to menu items

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  • #9084
    Lars
    Participant

      Hi Olly

      Feed back on the design or maybe just showing I missed something 🙂
      Currently we are entering menus for some pizzerias and the have about a 100+ different pizzas. They all come in “Normal”, “Depp pan” and “Family” sizes. For every pizza (despite it’s price) it is possible to chose 34 extra ingredient’s to add (or not).
      Now with some good will we can put the pizza’s in to nine different price groups (effectively “meal sizes”) and to those meal sizes I can connect the Ingredients.
      These leaves me with two problems:
      First. I cannot connect any ingredients to more than one meal size. Effectively this leaves me with more than 300 ingredients to maintain. Or am I doing something wrong?
      Second. I have created a pizza group with a 0 as price (to prevent me from ending op with 3 more groups with just one pizza and an additional 102 ingredients) in all three sizes and I have linked 34 ingredients but when we add a menu item and chose that price group (meal size) it says “Sorry, there are no ingredients associated with the price tier chosen for this item yet” (even after update).

      Thanks. And great product.
      /Lars

      #9085
      Olly
      Admin & Mod

        >Now with some good will we can put the pizza’s in to nine different price groups (effectively “meal sizes”) and to those meal sizes I can connect the Ingredients.

        why would you want to do that if they ALL come in 3 sizes (ie “Normal”, “Deep pan” and “Family” )?

        just set one size option to have those 3 sizes. set all your pizzas to be that size.

        add your 34 ingredients to that size

        and that’s that .
        (obviously , you can also use custom groups to then split your ingredients into distinct sub groups so to speak, but you will only have to do this once for all and will only have to maintain 34 ingredients 1x….am i missing something ?)

        I might be wrong of course – or misunderstand your scenario – but it appears to me you are missing something fundamental in the way sizes work
        (maybe this screenshot helps ?)

        ??

        #9086
        Lars
        Participant

          As I said I might have missed something 🙂
          That said there is a reason why we chose to do so. Out of the 100+ pizzas 30 are the same price (69, 89, 138) 10 are 55, 75, 110, another 10 are 60, 80, 120 and so on.
          To prevent us from altering the price on more than 70 pizzas or on all more than a hundred we created the groups. If we later on want to adjust prices it will also greatly reduce the time it takes to do so (given they are adjusted evenly).

          #9087
          Olly
          Admin & Mod

            i’m still not getting it
            surely, you just set the prices per pizza anyway ?!

            #9088
            Lars
            Participant

              When we choose a price tier with a pre-entered correct price it will atomically fill the prices and we don’t have to change or enter them – saves us time and minimizes errors.
              If we have just one price tier for all pizzas we will have to change prices on either all or almost all. Takes longer and are more prone to human errors.

              #9089
              Olly
              Admin & Mod

                >Takes longer …

                than maintaining 300 ingredients ?

                >we will have to change prices on either all or almost all

                i don’t understand this at all. if you enter a new pizza , you will have to enter a bunch of data anyway, so entering 3 prices (and only if they differ form the defaults) does not sound like too much of hardship. and once it’s set it – presumably – stays that way. if you then have another ingredient you want to offer for all , just add it one time (or indeed if you do not offer one anymore, just delete that one – once)

                you can do this whichever way you like of course, but that approach sounds VERY messy to me

                #9090
                Olly
                Admin & Mod

                  >To prevent us from altering the price on more than 70 pizzas or on all more than a hundred we created the groups

                  how does that help ?
                  once you set the prices on a pizza, changing the default price in the sizes section makes no difference….

                  #9091
                  Olly
                  Admin & Mod

                    or – in short – prices assigned to pizzas/menu items will not be changed from whatever you do elsewhere (ignoring any custom scripting of course)

                    #9096
                    Lars
                    Participant

                      Ok I see. But still entering it only 9 x 3 times as opposed to 100 x 3 saves us time and reduces errors.

                      #9097
                      Lars
                      Participant

                        Did see all your reply’s 🙂
                        Okay let me explain.
                        Yes you have to enter a bunch of data. The price being some of it. Entering the prices for nine price tiers and selecting the right price tier does reduce time spent by some degree as oppose to enter 300+ prices (and you actually not only have to enter it you have to delete the preselected price first even if it is 0). Also it reduces the risk off errors greatly – an even greater benefit since the repetitive task has a tendency to affect the persons concentration and leading to errors as they go along.
                        Off course some of the benefit is gone since chancing the price tier will not affect the menu items (but as you said that could be done by scripting and I guess the link to a price tier could be of some help there to).
                        And if it was possible to connect one ingredients to more than one price tier I would not have 300 ingredients but just 34, hence my suggestion 🙂

                        #9098
                        Olly
                        Admin & Mod

                          let me put it this way.

                          there is no right or wrong way to do things. if you prefer to do it the way you are doing it, that’s fine by me.

                          personally i would do it differently , but at the end of the day it’s you who has to maintain things that way

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