Hi Carl,

first of all: note to self – must sort out the formatting of this page at some point. I took the liberty to just put some line breaks into your reply for readablity.
(actually the whole site could probably do with a change…one day)

secondly, allow me to retort and yes, let me be defensive of my work (why shouldn’t I be !?)

in no particular order:

• “is what I’m talking about…”. At least I know now what you are talking about. It really wasn’t clear to me from everything you said previously (hence I always said something along the lines of “maybe i’m missing something”, “feel free to correct me ! etc etc….but maybe I’m just stupid)

• when going to burger king / or wherever , you have a one-on-one talk with a person where you can discuss things etc. when you order things online and pay there and then – by its nature – you don’t.

re: “imagine going to Burger King and asking for a few extra pickles and they say, “Sorry, you get the pickles we give you.””

Can you please tell Burger King to export your shops over here ? Because “Sorry, you get the pickles we give you.” is EXACTLY the answer you’d get if you were to ask for this here.
If you just want extra Mayo , you go to the corner of the shop where the Box with Mayo is. To me, that’s the equivalent of the comments textbox on the order/checkout Page as it’s not menu item specific.

I cannot think of one online shop where you can say “i want to order this – pay here – , but actually no , I would like to have some more bits I’ll just write it in a box and get these too….(sure on some you can leave comments per item but that doesn’t change the order itself). Having said that , maybe you know of one and can send me link which might give an idea as to how one could implement this.

Either way though. None of this is relevant. The plugin clearly doesn’t do what YOU want it to do. That’s a shame, but maybe you need to look at another solution for your sub sandwich customer.

Furthermore, I have to say I am feeling a bit irked by your comments

• as far as I am concerned , we had a discussion about what this option was all about. No point of me trying to program stuff if I dont even know what it is supposed to be doing.

• saying that I do not reply to or take into account users comments I find – quite frankly – offensive (especially given the conversation we had about order history etc right below this conversation. I even wrote some code for you to make it work for you as per your requirements)
  Furthermore, if you look back over our exchange here you’ll find that may absolutely first response was “is not such a bad thing per se (and I might just add that option at some point).”

• if i were not open to users suggestions, we wouldn’t even have this discussion and neither would the plugin have many of the options it has

• Gilads request is an ENTIRLY different thing. And if you were to read my reply, you would have seen that it’s something I am planning to do (in fact am in the middle of doing) because it’s a good idea…

• Denis’ request: I quite clearly answered that one with reasoning why – along the lines he suggested – it’s neither practical nor user-friendly (or at least i could not come up as yet with any reasonable solution)

• I have answered absolutely EVERY users emails sent to me (quite literally hundreds), comments in this message section as well as support requests on wordpress.org …mostly within hours.
  Furthermore, pretty much every users suggestion – if possible and halfway useful to more than one person – has been implemented so far or is in development.

This plugin and its extensions were/are developed and maintained in my spare time as a hobby and to get a better idea of how WordPress works as I was and am developing a few WP sites.

From there it grew into this thing that takes up a lot more time than is healthy. Just to be clear – and i hazard a guess that’s the case for most worpdress plugins – the plugin and extensions will never even come close to recouping their development costs. Not to mention the time spent on supporting users .

Am I claiming it is perfect? No, of course not.
Am I saying it works for absolutly every scenario ? No.
Do I listen to users suggestions ? Absolutely, all the time . (claiming otherwise is just wrong)

If this plugin doesn’t work for you. Feel free not to use it.
If you don’t want to use the extension. I’ll refund you.
If you want a total custom solution, pay someone to program this from scratch and be prepared for a (well into the) 5-figures bill.
If you find me difficult to deal with for some reason ? Don’t use it , don’t demand things and don’t ask for help .

Saying things like “I will have to find another option if that is the case. I need a solution soon.” and ” but we need to have the ability” etc sound just demanding and rude

As i said previously: once we had established what it is you actually need/want I would have integrated that when time allows without any costs to anyone (and will probably still do that). Simply because I think it’s not a bad idea and might be useful.

I just felt the need to clarify a few things regarding where I am coming from and to what this all sounded like to me.
As always, maybe I have misunderstood things. Feel free to comment etc

Olly

a,b):
hmm, to be honest, it doesn’t sound like you need an “add ingredients” plugin at all.
Surely, the point of this is to stop people having to write things like “extra cheese” etc but to just click on things (with the added advantage that they can get charged for it if necessary

if one adds a textbox to the add ingredients section of a product to allow the customer to then say “i don’t want any cheese” it kind of defeats the point of the whole thing.

furthermore, you would only get this textbox on items that have any selectable ingredients to start off with. As you describe it though, there wouldn’t be any as the item would be pre-configured so to speak , and the customer would just write some text saying “your preconfigured is fine, but i don’t like xyz” or “I would like a couple of extra cows with my sub” ….

it would strike me as a better idea, to add an option to the main plugin that allows you to globally enable a – possibly show/hide – textbox for every menu item which – if any comment is added there by the customer will get added to the cart regardless of the existence of any “add ingredients”
(essentially this text would be displayed in the cart / on the orderpage in addition to any ingredients that may or may not have been selected)….

c)

>I could have people change it I suppose…
well, you could but you will not be able to ever use/benefit from any future updates to the plugin without re-applying your changes (which might not even work anymore anyway when the plugin changes )

>The idea is why build a car yourself if they have them made already? I just need a piece added to the car.

• being somewhat facetious – :
• Customer: “Sir, I have a Fiat 500 and would like it to have a 500PS engine”
• Seller: “Buy a Ferrari….”

anyway, does the above make sense to you ?

Again, I am happy to add options and discuss things, but at this junction I am not convinced the “add ingredients” extension is the right place to look for the scenario you are describing

ah ok. i see where you are coming from, but I think you are missing something which you should be doing:

you do not need to/shouldn’t give them administrator access.

as the order history is only available to users with editor or above privileges I would do the following in your scenario:

get yourself a version of advanced access manager [AMM](although i found it a bit buggy in places – especially with woocommerce – in most cases it works reasonably well) or any other role editor plugin you might like

make a new role called “shopowner” (or whatever you want to call it) as a copy of the “editor” role which will already take away access to most things in the backend.
now you can use the AMM to take away everything you like from the “shopowner” role and just leave access to the order history only if you want by restricting access to everything else in access manager main menu.
as AMM is a bit crap in places (but its the best one i have found so far) you might have to goto AMM capabilities and deselect “manage categories” as well for that “shopowner ” role. anyway, play with it you’ll probably get the idea when you see it

I would strongly suggest – before doing anything with AMM – to backup your db and also definitely create a new role and set this under capabilities to be a copy of editor first so you dont screw up any other “normal” wordpress roles when editing things.

now just create a new user with this “shopowner” role and tell your clients use that one. nothing they can screw up then.

and if you really want straight away redirect them to the order page put something like this in your themes function.php


function shopowner_login_redirect( $redirect_to, $request, $user ) {
if ( !is_wp_error( $user ) ) {
$redirect=admin_url();/*everybody else*/
if($user->data && $user->data->user_login=='shopowner'){
$redirect=admin_url().'admin.php?page=wppizza-order-history';
}
return $redirect;
}
}
add_filter( 'login_redirect', 'shopowner_login_redirect', 10, 3 );


of course you will always have to login to the backend.
otherwise anyone could just have a look at the orders which I’m sure is not what you (or more importantly your client) wants ….
or maybe i’m missing something

fix what exactly ?
also, are you saying you don’t deliver during openingtimes ?
if you are delivering during opening times but also at other times , then i would think this is pretty much irrelevant, as you cannot order anything when the shop is closed anyway …(but maybe i’m missing something)

Hi

re 1: yes you could, if you are happy to / want to program it yourself (which might of course not be what you had in mind. dunno though).

if you want to do it yourself, i can make a template or some such thing with comments on how to do that bearing in mind the way the plugin is written

Anyway,ignoring that, at the moment only PayPal Gateway and Omnikassa (available in a day or two) exist.

Maybe you want to let me know which gateway you were interested in and i’ll see what I can do. If it’s a commonly used gateway I am probably willing to just program it and charge the same as for the paypal thing (as it will probably be useful to other people and i would get back (at least part of) the development costs that way) if it’s something a bit more obscure, I’d be happy to quote you for implementing it if you want. Entirely up to you of course

re 2: ingredients for half pizzas etc are not implemented in that extension at the moment . it’s something i need to do – i know – but i do not have an ETA when that will be possible/available

re 3: yes you can. there’s something called “custom groups” in that extension where you could just make a group with certain ingredients that are free – or not , your choice.
(as an example , go to http://www.wp-pizza.com/twentytwelve/ and check out the “Pizza and Salad or Wings” . (but you can also make some of the ingredients free whereas others are additional etc etc . it’s just an example)

re 4, i assume that we are talking about the same as under “2”.. so the same applies.
not yet, but is something i will look into (in fact , it will be done in a way that you will be able to choose between offering half/quarter/thirds whatever…..as i said though , its not yet implemented

hope the above helps, but let me know if you have any further questions

> I would really like to purchase a pro version..
i don’t understand. what pro version ? there’s the free plugin and some extension that go with it

>have a way so customer can dynamically add or take off quantities within the cart
well. it doesn’t do that (at the moment anyway and there are no immediate plans to do something about that

> repeat customers to be able to login so that they can either reorder
have a read here: http://www.wp-pizza.com/feature-requests/comment-page-2/#comment-146
i talked about that already

a: what do you mean “other plugins use this function”
b: get your host to enable it. (it’s absurd that it’s turned off. its a website for crying out load)
c: and/or try and change wppizza->settings->type of mail delivery (try phpmailer)

Hi Denis,

first of all, i wouldn’t call it counterproductive. cumbersome perhaps….(but then again, you’ll only have to do it once)

secondly, i understand what you are saying, but there’s no way to do that without severely restricting the flexibility of the plugin. It might be the case in your situation, that you have the same ingredients for a multitude of different meals/sizes, but that does not mean it’s the same for everybody. so, sorry, but you will have to duplicate the ingredients.

Essentially, you are assigning a set of ingredients to a mealsize group which in turn you can assigne to any/all meals within that group. If one were to do it the other way round somewhat, one would have to list all your ingredients under every meal/menu item and select them there individually, set prices etc etc , which I would think you’ll agree would be a lot more work. (never mind the fact, if you decide that you do not have an ingredient anymore or the price changes , you would have to do that for every menu item it is being used instead of just editing it once as appropriate in the ingredient section….

there are a couple more reasons why it is the way it is, but I’m not going to bore you senseless (unless you want me to 🙂

that’s because your theme doesn’t have thumbnails/featured images enabled

add
add_theme_support(‘post-thumbnails’);
to your functions file (or complain to the people that make the theme )